Computex 2009：關於Ubuntu的消息
文章分類: 軟體應用
在6月4日的時候，Canonical邀請十多家媒體來聊聊關於Ubuntu。老實說，像這樣的場合，筆者通常都不會很想去，一來大約知道現場會談到什麼，畢竟Ubuntu我們還算是滿關心的；二來談的都會高來高去，講的是全球，再不然是亞洲，很難談到只有台灣的部分。
總之，不外是下定決心要好好經營。固的，這個決心很好，但如果可以告訴我們之後關於ARM有什麼具體的做法，合作對象是誰等等訊息，我會更感激Canonical人員的。不過呢，廠商到最後還是沒有說出來。
老實說，我還比較希望技術人員，來我們癮科技這邊坐坐，談談在工作上的甘苦談，或是廠商其他人員，談談在台灣要發展Ubuntu等等類似在公開的會議上不會談到的東西。
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<Computex 2009: Some News about Ubuntu>
On the 4th of June, Canonical invited more than a dozen of press media for something about Ubuntu. Quite frankly, it's the kind of occasion that we would be eager to attend. For starter, we pretty much knew what will be said, since we care about Ubuntu and constantly monitor for its latest development. On top of that, we knew that in most cases, what will be said usually set from global or Asia perspectives; rarely will there be anything Taiwan specific content that might interest us.
In short, nothing other than expressing the determination of trying to run and manage, which is good. However, if someone can tell us something about any tangible plans about dealing with ARM, who might be the future business partners and etc., then we will feel grateful to the helpful staffs at Canonical. However, in the end, still nothing.
Quite frankly we would rather hope for the chance to invite the technical staffs to our HQ to talk about their stories at work, or someone from the vendor to talk about the issues with promoting Ubuntu in Taiwan, something they wouldn't be talking about in the press conference.
雖說如此，我還是簡單條列一下歸納後的心得，給讀者參考：
‧現場展示N多台裝有Ubuntu的輕省筆電。
‧提到有和碩、緯創、廣達的ODM
‧有同學牌的筆電。
‧最捧場的，應該是Dell，因為有四款筆電搭載Ubuntu
‧自然也有ARM囉，可以參考這篇文章。
‧也有展示一台nettop，不過是巴西廠商的
‧有將Android系統Port到其中一台筆電上。
‧也有整合Moblin V2的小筆電
‧台灣編制人員會擴增。
‧其實他們談到Win 7是不錯的作業系統，也有提到與其他Linux系競合的關係。
最後，我還是問了不是很適當的問題。我所問的，是關於在台灣銷售的問題。雖然說，在現場我們可以看到有許多廠商 搭載了Ubuntu。但事實上，會有幾台能夠進到台灣呢？在台灣，都是玩家自己搞個Ubuntu來玩玩，就市場現實上，幾乎沒機會看到搭戴Ubuntu的筆電。
當然，答案也不令人太意外，廠商提到了這部分其實並不是他們所能夠掌握的，除了他們之外，這還需要中間的硬體商，以及消費者等三方共同的溝通。尤其是消費者端，由消費者端往上，才比較有可能讓硬體廠商接受，來搭載Ubuntu。也許在未來，有機會在台灣看得到廠商搭載Ubuntu的筆電來進行販售。
不過廠商也接著提到，他們會經營教育市場。固的，在這邊祝他們好運了，加油。
Anyway, for your reference, here is a summary of what was in this press conference:
* Countless netbook with Ubuntu installed on display.
* ODM products from Pegatron, Wistron and Wistron
* The Classmate notebook
* With Dell being the most supportive, four on display
* ARM based too. For more detail, check out this article (note: in traditional Chinese text).
* A nettop from Brazilian manufacturer
* One of the notebook have Android ported to it.
* A sub-note with Moblin V2 integrated to it.
* A plan to expand the organization in Taiwan with more staffs.
* Mentioned for fact that Windows 7 is a nice operating system, and competitive-cooperation with other Linux camps.
Towards the end of the session, we did ask a not so appropriate question. The question we raise is related to the sales in Taiwan. Although in the conference, we could see a lot of hardware vendor display their products with Ubuntu installed. However, how many of it will be brought into Taiwan market? In Taiwan, it is the case of fans installs Ubuntu by themselves, in market reality, almost no chance of seeing one with Ubuntu preinstalled.
Of course, the answer is not all that surprising. In their words, it isn't something they can control. It would require the three-way communication between them, the hardware vendor in the middle and the consumers. In particular, the consumers end. It's only when consumers started to push hardware vendor that we might see hardware vendor selling notebooks with Ubuntu preinstalled.
After the reply, the vendor was quick to add for fact they will be educating the market. Good, we hereby wish them luck, keep up the good work.
Toshiba NB200
This one is in Brazilian Portuguese.
Next to the Brazilian nettop, a nettop by Quanmax
Quanmax notebook
Dell, being the best supporter, with 4 on display
A MID too
Intel Classmate with Ubuntu installed
This one runs Android, however, it's only an initial porting.
至於那位站的朋友，雖然我不知你是誰，但謝謝幫忙展示Android在筆電上面跑的情形。
Front row, from the left, Jon Melamut, GM of the OEM Service Division, key speaker; center Willian Mason, to the right, Kenneth Edwards. On the back row standing, Kevin, from marketing in Taiwan.
讀者回應 (第 1 頁 / 共 1 頁)
erio @ Jun 5th 2009 3:33AM
這個電腦是巴西語的XD。
不是葡萄牙語嗎？或稱Brazilian Portuguese．．．
ifurita @ Jun 5th 2009 3:41AM
站著的那位如果是台灣人, 好像是台灣區的 PM (兼 account sales?) 一兩年前在公司見過面, 談 UMPC 上安裝 Ubuntu.
NAOKI @ Jun 5th 2009 4:15AM
在台灣賣的筆電有沒有預裝ubuntu無所謂
反正台灣目前的環境（真是多虧了政府持續幫微軟衝量），windows似乎勢必裝的
只要ubuntu能持續對硬體有良好的支援就好了
反正自己裝ubuntu也快也很容易
Palatis @ Jun 5th 2009 10:54AM
但是對我這種買回來就改裝 Linux 的人, 預裝 Windows 不是很不划算?
johnchao @ Jun 5th 2009 11:51AM
我比較想要預裝Ubuntu版的，除了價格可以比較低外，預裝至少會把設定都弄得好好地，不需要自己再花時間tuning。
NAOKI @ Jun 5th 2009 7:18PM
如果不弄雙系統，只使用ubuntu的人，的確要多支出windows的錢
希望使用ubuntu的人數會多到讓廠商看到
我覺得在小筆電市場linux會輸，很大部份是因為廠商自作聰明用近全殘的linux(半殘已經不如以形容那被閹割的狀況)
至於預裝ubuntu，如果ubuntu能把硬體支援弄齊，應該不用做特別調整
如果是針對那些特別按鍵......除非ubuntu不換版本，或是你不跟著換
不然我實在很懷疑新版本是否會持續支援特殊鍵
以目前一年換版兩次，要筆電廠商持續做全面支援，好像也有難度
bqin @ Jun 5th 2009 4:27AM
我想要那個 ubuntu 的滑鼠墊...>///
cool @ Jun 5th 2009 12:45PM
可以在這裡買:
https://usshop.ubuntu.com/product.php?code=09%2056002&catid=2
http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=135&osCsid=16a139c76ad3662d79aadab17fbdfd27
支持Canonical啦~
ifurita @ Jun 5th 2009 4:47AM
照片放錯了, 放上了 e21FORUM 的 Intel Keynote speech 照片
yurenju @ Jun 5th 2009 6:14AM
站著的是 kevin, 台灣的 marketing
taiten @ Jun 5th 2009 12:25PM
樓上內行
EAGLE @ Jun 5th 2009 8:59PM
其實如果UBUNTU 能夠用心經營教學的話,有可能在台灣慢慢的打出成績,不過要看公司能燒多少錢.
不要讓我們國家的公民一半以上都成了盜版的支援者..
目前想辦法解決的是Web ATM ..
翔 @ Jun 5th 2009 12:16PM
請Ubuntu Taiwan人員與教育部負責國民電腦及桃園縣政府教育處數位教育課連繫, 因需要他們技術協助, 各校資訊組長需要他們幫忙及提供教育課程. 其實各縣的教育單位都需要大力協助, 過去會偏向MS, 是因資訊組長們有很多沒資源, 擔心出事, 一旦有技術支援保證就比較安心.
WebATM部份是因銀行與公家單位的資訊服務有很多是外包給廠商, 而這些廠商有與MS保持特殊關係.
taiten @ Jun 5th 2009 12:34PM
可以請你將詳細的聯絡方式, 窗口mail給我嗎?
我是Canonical 的 Field engineer
翔 @ Jun 6th 2009 7:22AM
已經於網頁上回應相關資料
翔 @ Jun 6th 2009 7:07AM
桃園縣教育處網頁上面就有數位教育課裡候選待用校長的連絡分機, 一問便知. 也能從他得知教育部負責業務的連絡方式. 桃園縣是主推開源碼及Ubuntu, 某些學校有些老師會有經費負責開發校內使用特殊軟體 (如圖書館管理系統) 給縣內學校免費使用.
http://www.tyc.edu.tw/boe/main.php
或是用關鍵字 "資訊教育輔導團" or "國教輔導團" 就可找到各縣市負責輔導老師們的名單與連絡方式.
翔 @ Jun 6th 2009 7:48AM
在小筆電市場linux會輸.
主因是MS有特別要求硬體商對Linux作各種不法競爭骯髒手段, 如閹割硬體配備內容及軟體性能, 連驅動程式也蓄意不全, 更何況是那個能讓Linux跑Windows XP應用軟體的Wine 故意不裝. 要求硬體商配合, 否則不給銷售回扣, 甚至大幅度提高授權價來要脅.
先前MS強推Vista 來汰除XP, 就有同樣操作過程.
不然照說, 裝Linux的機種因省掉微軟稅應該能提高硬體配備水準, 至少也要與Windows XP款同級, 但就是在MS勒索下, 強迫將Linux款降級, 來讓一般消費者對Linux沒有任何嘗試的興趣. 最典型就是Asus EeePC及Acer AspireOne, 存在超明顯惡性操作痕跡.與Acer 及Asus公司有關的人, 一看就知道在玩甚鬼.